Thursday, September 27, 2012

Getting Control of a Talkative Class


What can you do to help children learn to listen to a lesson without interrupting?  How can you give a lesson without allowing children to continually blurt out comments and chat with each other?  This is a question that is asked of me from time to time, and a scenario that my former student teachers and university field work students have often struggled with.  Today I will give you suggestions and ideas to help you train your students to listen quietly through a lesson, which should to allow you to teach with a minimum amount of interruptions!  Sometimes, getting your class to this point can be a lot of work, but it is certainly worth the effort.

Here is a recent question regarding classroom interruptions, etc., and the answer that I wrote for her.
I hope you will find it helpful!

"We've been loving using your materials since last school year. Maika is officially in Kindergarten this year and I still homeschool him.  We are in a co-op once a week and I often have a hard time making the children (kindergarteners) focus in the classroom.  Normally, a child is talking to another child when I am asking a specific question. Or a child thinks they know the material, but they have not necessary mastered the material, so he/she interrupts by saying "I already know that!" Or, "This is boring!" etc....   Any tips?"


This is my response:

Getting children to focus during a lesson is one thing, and getting them to stop talking is another.  I usually will not begin a lesson unless I have everyone's eyes on me, or nearly everyone's eyes focused on me.  Once I have their attention, THEN I begin my lesson.  Don't begin your lesson until you are confident that you are at least beginning with them focused on you.  If you are asking for them to look at you and they are not, then start praising those that ARE ready and are focused by saying, "I like the way that Brian is sitting and looking right here," etc.  The more children that you name that are ready, the more likely it is that the others will snap to attention.  If they don't, then call their names and tell them that they need to sit down nicely and pay attention so that everyone can get started.  That is what works for me.
I like the way Brian is raising his hand and waiting to be called on!

Now interrupting during a lesson is a separate issue and can be a very difficult thing to deal with for many teachers, especially new ones.  Usually, I tell my student teachers  that they must make an issue over the first and second interruptions, even if they are very small!  If you let a even just a few of them go, then you will have many children shouting things out and talking during lessons.  Once a few children had the satisfaction of telling you a "side story" in the middle of your lesson, and you have reinforced it by saying, "Wow!" or "That's great," then everyone else will want the same thing, and your lesson is effectively over.

Children will not respect you if accept disrespect from them without doing anything about it.
On the other hand, if children are telling you that your lesson is boring, then they are being very disrespectful, and this is not acceptable!  I would tell them that speaking to adults disrespectfully is not allowed, and then you must follow through with some kind of disciplinary action that you are comfortable with.  That may be a time out, or a "thinking chair," or whatever system you have in place.  If you have no discipline plan in place, then that is your problem right there, I expect!  If the child said that he is bored and he was rude about it, then have that child move away from the group and write you a letter of apology.  If the child does not know how, then he or she will have to wait until the rest of the children are playing so that you will have time to help him or her with that assignment.  If they don't like this, then they will have to be more respectful and not tell you that they are bored in such a way next time.  The child can be taught to raise his or her hand and tell you respectfully in a different way that they learned this once before.  You can explain that though they may think that they have this mastered, they actually do NOT, and probably will benefit from the review.


Here is another technique I use a LOT, especially at the beginning of the year.  When the children start interrupting, I tell them that I am going to try that again, and they are going to be really quiet while I do that, or say that, or read that page again, or whatever it was we were doing.  And THIS time, they are going to be quiet.  If that doesn't work, we back up and I try it AGAIN.  I keep doing it again and again until the children are so annoyed with the ones that won't stop talking that they start pressuring each other to be quiet.  They don't want to hear me re-read that page over and over again!  And that's what is going to happen if someone continually interrupts me!

Another thing that helped me quite a bit last year, (though I haven't started it yet this year,) is the "Interrupting Song" on the Classroom Management CD and DVD.   Each time a child began to blurt something out, I just started quietly singing the words to the song:

Interrupting is very disrupting;
Don't start squawking when someone else is talking!"

(And yes, those are all the words to the whole song!  It just repeats itself a few times!)  The rest of the class would begin to chant it along with me, and that pretty much took care of it!  It was enough of a deterrent to make most of them stop, especially since the rest of the class joined in with me in it.  It was like a joint effort to get everyone to quit interrupting!  Now I would say that my class last year had a pretty "thick skin," in that I could be do things like this and nobody would start to cry, etc.  I'm not positive that I would use the song in that way this year, because my students seem a bit sensitive this year.  So I will just teach them the song, and may not begin chanting it with the kids when someone starts interrupting.  It probably depends on the child, the situation, and the frequency of the interruptions, etc.


One thing that is very important to remember is that BEFORE you start any lesson, you must set your standards for behavior.  Tell them before you start that the rules are that they must listen quietly while the teacher is talking, and that everyone else must listen quietly while their friends are talking.  If your kids are already in the habit of breaking this rule, then you may have a difficult time breaking them of this bad habit and establishing a new routine.  Consistency is the key, so you must remember to stick to the same rule every single day, or you will never break them of the habit!  So you will have to set your mind to the fact that this may be the case, and make your goal for the day (or for the next couple of days) simply be that the children listen to you nicely and quietly, without interrupting and without side conversations.  You will probably need to have some kind of reinforcement system in place as well, such as a marble jar.  Add a marble when you see that everyone is sitting nicely without rude comments, and praise the group for their good behavior.  Perhaps the promise of a bit extra playtime or recess time would be a good incentive for them to work for?


Another thing you may need to do as your students readjust to "the new you" is resign yourself to the fact that you may just have to put several of them in time out on the first day, (or whatever system of discipline that you use.)   There have been times when I have had to "re-train" my class, so I told them that I was just going to have to be "Mrs. Meanie" for a few days until they remembered the rules a little bit better.  And once everyone got back to their good little selves, they would get their nice teacher back.  Other than that, Mrs. Meanie wasn't going to give anyone any chances at ALL as far as interrupting or talking to friends during a lesson is concerned.  I think that this gave them fair warning!  So when they started in being naughty, I just told them that I already explained that there were no chances for the next few days at all, and that I was really very sorry, but that they would just have to learn the hard way.  After all, the easy way didn't work; we tried it already, right?


I often tell my class that it is my job to teach them to follow the rules in school, and if I don't do a good job, the first grade teachers will be mad at me.  So when they get to first grade and keep blurting things out without raising their hands, the first grade teachers will be upset with me and ask me why I didn't do my job???  This helps me take the pressure off of myself when I have to discipline them; I just blame it on "those first grade teachers who will get mad at me," or even the principal, who gave me the job of teaching them to listen quietly.  I say that the principal will be mad at me if I don't do my job.

This book, Interrupting Chicken, is a great way to teach a class about interrupting.

You may also want to consider giving your students a lesson on what interrupting is, and why it is considered rude.  Remember, some parents accept this type of behavior from their children (and teachers, too!) so children are not always aware that it is considered unacceptable by many.  I really like the book Interrupting Chicken by David Ezra Stein for this purpose.
 


Another book that includes a section on interrupting is my own book, Wiggles Learns the Rules at School.  I always teach the children all of the rules at school with this book using a little dog puppet to help me act out the story.  It really captures their attention, and they LOVE it, every time!  As a friend once said, "You know you are doing something right when the kids BEG you to review the rules!"

I hope that these suggestions help you, and I hope that if your class is full of talkative little ones, that you are able to help them over come it and move on from there! 

Heidi

11 comments:

melissa said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've been a teacher for many years but this year's class of 24 firsties takes the cake on talking and interrupting. This is also the first time in at least 15 years I've had more than 20 students.I like your reminders to the teacher that we really do need to look at ourselves and at what we are accepting.

Leya Ognoskie said...

THANK YOU & THANK YOU! I only have maximum of 7 children in our co-op, so I have such a high respect for teachers in a regular school setting. Teachers work so hard with the hope of their students ENJOY learning. Classroom manegement must be set before this goal is achieved. I hope this topic is helpful to other techers out there as much as it is to me.

Katina said...

Great ideas! I also like this one when I am just waiting on a few to pay attention. I say, "I'm waiting on 2 people," but never say their names. Take it down to "I'm waiting on one person," and pretty soon the whole room is attending. I guess everyone thinks you are talking about them and starts to listen. :)

Katina said...

Great ideas! I also use this one when just a few are not paying attention. I say, "I'm waiting on 2 people," without saying anyone's name specifically. Take it down to "I'm waiting on 1 person," and pretty soon everyone is attending. I guess they all think you are talking about them and they listen up!

Heidi Butkus said...

To Katina:
That's a great idea! I love that! Thanks for sharing.
Heidi

Gracehopper said...

Wow, Heidi. I just had the, "This is boring!", comment yesterday. Thanks for the post and the affirmation that our job is to help little ones learn more than their ABCs and 123s. Perfect timing! :)
GracehopperLearning

Gracehopper said...

Wow, Heidi. I just had the, "This is boring!", comment yesterday. Thanks for the post and the affirmation that our job is to help little ones learn more than their ABCs and 123s. Perfect timing! :)
GracehopperLearning

Heidi Butkus said...

To Grasshopper:
You're welcome!
And here's another point that I heard from an experienced teacher once at a Student Study Team meeting with a parent regarding problems with a difficult student. The parent said that her son just found school boring, and she really thought that he was not being challenged. The teacher said that she felt that it took some maturity to become interested in "acadamia" and school concepts, and that it doesn't always come naturally, especially to many little boys. It's not so much that it is not challenging as that they don't find it relevant or useful to their lives. Teachers and parents would need to work together to show the children that the concepts being presented would eventually become useful to the children, and maturity would eventually develop. We already knew that he did not have all of the concepts mastered, so true boredom from "knowing it all" couldn't be the problem.
I've always liked that answer, and I tell parents that I always try to help children see that the information will be useful to them.
Heidi

Anonymous said...



Heidi...this is excellent. I've taught for 30 years, & we all need tohear these simple basics once in awhile. Thank you for your (as usual) quality post.
BeadBoard

beth said...

Great ideas!! I have a student teacher this year and this explains perfectly how to get control during a lesson! On another note we did the "Pete the cat" guided drawing on Friday and my kids went nuts for it!!!!

Lee Ann said...

Thank you for the reassurance. I do just about the same things you mentioned, even telling the kiddos that they are stopping me from doing my job and the principal will be upset. This year has quite a few challenging kiddos; one has a tantrum when he has to change his green card to yellow after he yells out, calls the teacher a name, lies, hits,etc.